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介绍一下美国索菲斯公司

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发表于 2008-12-6 07:37:16 | 显示全部楼层
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阿巴IPS的多用炉不行,不过真空炉还是不错的!

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发表于 2008-12-6 11:46:48 | 显示全部楼层
慕斑竹真是后辈学习的榜样啊,知识渊博,见多识广,见解精辟独到,有时间请慕斑竹多指导一下论坛内兄弟。

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发表于 2008-12-6 20:01:40 | 显示全部楼层
回复amn727朋友:
如果没猜错的话,你应该是南京汽车齿轮厂的吧。现在的索菲斯的多用炉谁在负责呀?宋厂长还在吗?祁工还在吗?

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发表于 2009-3-19 16:11:20 | 显示全部楼层
怎么看怎么都觉得这是广告!我就不相信,索菲斯全是优点,没有一丝缺点?

人还无完人呢!

别拿价格说事!

虽然我没用过它们的设备!可是就算它们在热处理技术方面起步很早,技术一度或者一直领先!可是有句话叫“物极必反”吧!

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发表于 2009-3-19 16:23:46 | 显示全部楼层
前几个月在OHIO出差,看了几个热处理工厂. 用Surface 的人家大把,除了井式炉还有多用炉.似乎在渗碳上用的多.

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发表于 2009-3-20 22:02:49 | 显示全部楼层
楼上说的对。
美国索菲斯的强项是气氛炉和高端的真空炉,气氛炉中多用炉和无马弗井式炉渗碳炉是他的王牌,在美国的市场占有很高的比例。而且,在他的业绩清单中,你可以看到大部分都是世界上知名的公司。如果你的用户中都是一些知名的公司说明什么呢?
在说说他的真空炉,民用的真空炉索菲斯的市场份额没有Ab Ipsen 和AFC的多,但在宇航和军工领域中,他的真空炉是独占鳌头的。很可惜,我们大部分的人是看不到他的用户的,在中国也没有真空炉的用户。我曾经不理解问过索菲斯的老板,为什么不卖到中国呢?老板告诉我,美国政府不准许他们买到中国,因为有个巴黎统筹协定的限制。

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发表于 2009-3-24 14:36:47 | 显示全部楼层
与国内的设备比,国外的设备就是耐用,哪怕是二流厂家

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发表于 2009-3-24 15:08:42 | 显示全部楼层
没听说国不太了解

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发表于 2009-3-24 20:52:18 | 显示全部楼层

回复 7# zy7633 的帖子

是美国AFC的设备

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发表于 2009-3-31 21:44:52 | 显示全部楼层

回复 28# hgfhc-rcl 的帖子

网上高人较多,作为热处理的一员,有必要了解SURFACE,没有他,气氛炉等的历史要重写,向你了解一下,你公司出口到土耳其的设备调整到什么程度了

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发表于 2012-5-10 22:11:31 | 显示全部楼层
SURFACE就是强!在可控气氛方面独特。

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发表于 2012-5-11 14:33:46 | 显示全部楼层

个人见过几次surface 设备,平心而论确认不错(倒退20年前的技术)。以下是美国一个小论坛对北美10大热处理炉制造商的的评选,从中我们大概可以管中窥豹;

Largest New Furnace Builders in North America
An inherent problem with putting together a list of the ten largest new furnace builders in NA is the fact that the vast bulk are privately owned and have no desire to share their sales figures (very similar to the issue facing us when putting together a list of the largest commercial heat treaters in NA and the world). In spite of this most of the companies we approached willingly shared their sales figures on the basis that we not publish the actual figure, we of course will honor this wish. A few notes about the criteria we used when putting together this list. This is North American based manufacturers only, as an example a very good sized company with a strong presence in NA is Grenoble, France based ECM which does little or no manufacturing in NA which means they were not considered. Seco Warwick which does make our list would probably be #1 if we took into account their worldwide activities, however we have only looked at their Meadville, PA operation. Another point to keep in mind is that this is heat treating only and we are not looking at builders for steel mills as an example. It was suggested to us that Flinn & Dreffin might be amongst the largest, they certainly might be but we do not believe if we looked only at their heat treating furnaces that they would make this list. We will freely admit though that the line between heat treating furnaces and furnaces built for other industries does tend to "blur" a bit. Enough preamble, let's see where we stand with a brief background of each company.
AFC-Holcroft, Wixom, Michigan.
We are picking AFC-Holcroft as the largest new furnace builder in North America although it would appear to be a very close race between AFC-Holcroft and Ipsen International. What tipped it in their favor was the AFC/ALD partnership which builds vacuum carburizing systems. Strong in Pushers, Batch IQ's, mesh belt and cast link belt furnaces. http://www.afc-holcroft.com
Ipsen International, Rockford, Illinois.
Worldwide Ipsen is one of the 2 or 3 largest builders in the world. Far and away the strongest in North America when it comes to new vacuum furnaces. While they are also very involved in atmosphere furnaces, they do not command nearly as large a share of the market in NA as in Europe. http://www.ipsen-intl.com/index.asp
Surface Combustion, Maumee, Ohio. (美国索菲斯)
When it comes to batch IQ furnaces Surface has probably sold more than all the competition combined in North America. Also known for pushers, some vacuum furnaces and the occasionally mesh belt line. Also pushing hard for Vacuum Carburizing. Estimated sales are in the $40 million USD range. www.surfacecombustion.com/indexflash.html
Consolidated Engineering Company, Kennesaw, Georgia.
The largest when it comes to Aluminum heat treating furnaces. A well established company with a good reputation. Sales of approximately $35 million USD. www.cec-intl.com/
Seco Warwick, Meadville, PA.
Worldwide one of the largest builders of new furnaces and this also holds true for North America. Seco pretty well covers the gauntlet, vacuum furnaces, vacuum carburizing systems, aluminum furnaces, all in all this is a company that has been growing steadily over the years. www.secowarwick.com
Can-Eng, Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada.
One of two Canadian companies that makes our list, the other being Vac Aero. Can Eng was the first to bring mesh belt furnace lines to North America when they formed a partnership with a Japanese builder a good 20 years ago. Strong in mesh belt lines and aluminum furnaces. Estimated sales are $20 to $25 million USD. www.can-eng.com/
Vac Aero, Oakville, Ontario, Canada.
The largest Canadian builder of new vacuum furnaces. Vac Aero is also one of the largest commercial heat treaters in Canada (specializing in Aerospace work) and a long established builder of new vacuum furnaces. While not one of the best known companies on our list they have a very strong history of building new furnaces. Vac Aero also has a division in Poland and a joint venture with Hightemp Furnaces in India. www.vacaero.com
Solar Manufacturing, Souderton, PA.
For a company that was formed not that many years ago Solar has registered the fastest growth of any of the companies on this list. Owned and run by Bill Jones, Bill also started VFS and his Solar Atmosphere company is the largest commercial vacuum heat treater in NA. Concentrating on new vacuum furnaces they also offer vacuum carburizing. http://www.solarmfg.com/
GM Enterprises, Corona, CA.
While GM is mainly vacuum they also occasionally get involved in other types of furnaces including a brief foray into Batch IQ units. Sales are estimated at $15 million USD. www.gmenterprises.com/
Abbott Furnace Company, St. Mary's PA.
The heart of the powdered metal industry in North America and probably the world is St. Mary's, PA. Based on this it is no surprise that some of the largest builders of new sintering furnaces are located in this area. As far as we can tell the largest of these is Abbott Furnace, a company which specializes in new sintering furnaces. Our best (educated) guess is that Abbott rounds out our list of the 10 largest new furnaces builders in North America. www.abbottfurnace.com

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发表于 2012-5-26 13:14:32 | 显示全部楼层
常州注册了一家surface热处理公司

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发表于 2012-5-26 13:39:35 | 显示全部楼层
    美国索菲斯公司设备很棒,但在中国市场没做起来。
    另外该公司还有多用炉使用水剂淬火液,有保护气氛的哦,这在其他多用炉厂家里基本没有涉足吧

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发表于 2012-5-26 21:39:41 | 显示全部楼层
百丝润 发表于 2012-5-26 13:39
美国索菲斯公司设备很棒,但在中国市场没做起来。
    另外该公司还有多用炉使用水剂淬火液,有保护气 ...

水剂淬火液这种淬火工艺,现在肯定不是索菲斯一家在做的,据我所知,Ipsen、爱协林、上海汇森、吉艾菲、丰东都在做的

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发表于 2012-5-26 22:05:17 | 显示全部楼层
   你错了,10年前,万向集团想上水剂淬火多用炉,你讲的几家没有一家能够生产,最后还是艾西林公司带人去参观仿制生产了,还是没有气氛保护的

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发表于 2013-7-17 17:00:11 | 显示全部楼层
请问下楼主,索菲斯在中国有公司吗?有的话叫什么名字?
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发表于 2013-7-18 20:44:11 | 显示全部楼层
拍了一张索菲斯加热井式炉照片。

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发表于 2013-7-18 20:58:15 | 显示全部楼层
索菲斯井式炉,拍的照片,漂亮不?

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发表于 2013-12-12 13:32:18 | 显示全部楼层
赵翠高 发表于 2013-7-18 20:58
索菲斯井式炉,拍的照片,漂亮不?

这个炉盖提升是靠液压的吗,看不太清楚。
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